I always found their icons to be quite bland. Sounds like blasphemy to me. They are not providing clear and orthodox renditions. An icon is an item of prayer, not a decoration like a painting”*. :shrug: Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, : The views and opinions expressed in these forums do not necessarily reflect those of Catholic Answers. Many are excessively busy. Gee, in this icon, the donkey is eating branches too… oh, there are only 3 disciples pictured and 3 other “heads”… guess this one doesn’t count as a real ikon either…, christthesaviourhbg.org/images/Church%20Icons/Entry_Into_Jerusalem.JPG[LEFT]. This is probably a very subjective observation, but it is how I see it. An icon is an item of prayer, not a decoration like a painting. That would be odd, since Patchunky is Byzantine Catholic. 1st of the two you posoted sure looks like a well watered palm. These particular individuals finally began to wonder if they were really “Orthodox”
and did the services impeccably well, as George had learned in Boston. You do not choose an ikon, an ikon CHOOSES YOU! As to the “Not a Palm”… modern iconographers have no reason to not know what a palm looks like. (and personally continued their occult practices privately) once made the statement:
support themselves to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars per year selling
I remember that the first thing he taught us was that if you’re going to purchase an icon, you don’t purchase it because the color matches your decor. was immediately reincarnated in his body and survived. Abbot’s views and beliefs with regards to the many faiths and religions that exist
They are not providing clear and orthodox renditions. concelebrate with them, falsely claiming various kinds of non-Chalcedonian “Apostolic
:rolleyes: I actually had heard something to the effect that the confusion regarding “writing” icons comes from the words for writing and painting being the same in some language, maybe it was Russian? the Omaha World Herald that his “Patriarchate” covered only 5 or 6 acres. This was a collection of icons on loan from the Monastery of Saint Catherine on Mount Sinai. Terms, Ecumenical Documents and
nuns bow down before the idol in the Hare Krishna temple in Dallas, and Abbot Bishop
television one night while I was living at St. Tikhon’s Seminary in Pennsylvania
and spiritual retaliation with which the Abbot had threatened them if they ever
Do you have proof of this Catholic claim or is it just another Eastern Orthodox bashing Catholics? under Diocletian, and I (Fr. where he joined with Yogananda, and worked P.R. concerning the estate of a novice (son of a powerful state politician) who died
Their products are spirituallly dangerous,
and blasphemous) blend of the Trisagion prayers and Hindu worship. One day, in the late 70’s, he announced to the brethren that they had
No kidding. and One, Venerating Icons
magical evocation and demonolatry. I bought a Pantocrator icon yesterday and it looks pretty similar to theirs… :S. The following comments concern a business called Monastery Icons This company offers “icons” and other religious content that has a veneer of Orthodoxy, but which in fact is associated with Hinduism. Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, Commonly Misunderstood
Many may remember this group as having been featured on various prime-time news
This one is busy, needlessly so, but not of need gnostic. Fortunately the sacred arts ministry of Monastery Icons was not harmed by this attempt, and most people recognize the letter for what it is: a bizarre conglomeration of lies, fantasy, and misinformation. Oh, and several of the individuals are making the “2-finger” hand of blessing. … He then migrated to California,
(I can’t begin to spell it). You write books, letters, and songs; you paint ikons. By venerating icons, Orthodox Christians acknowledge that matter is not inherently evil, but can be used by God. They then constituted themselves as the “Holy Protection Old Catholic Benedictine
(Non-Chalcedonians), The Witness of the
Monastery Icons | Monastery Icons (www.monasteryicons.com) is a non-profit foundation created to strengthen faith and Christian devotion in churches, schools, and individuals. longer do business with them. Monastery Icons may have no physical presence in Ohio at all. Some of the icons by Monastery Icons have oddities. The VRC has digitized and catalogued the collection of several thousand color images (5 × 7 inch color Ektachrome transparencies and 35mm slides) of icons in the Monastery of Saint Catherine made by the joint expeditions. in about 1980, and wondering just what kind of “order” or “religion” they were. Life, Spiritual Guidance in
This project was funded by a David A. Gardner '69 Magic Grant from the Princeton University Council on the Humanities. but which in fact is associated with Hinduism. Their products are spirituallly dangerous, and so Fr. One “prays” an icon. Patriarchalism, Monophysites
In March of 2007 I had the good fortune of visiting the Getty Museum in Los Angeles to visit the exhibit, "Holy Image/Hallowed Ground: Icons from Sinai." in their sophomoric secret-society silliness if they were not so seriously believed
This company offers "icons" and other religious content that has a veneer of Orthdooxy, but which in fact is associated with Hinduism. When I first heard about this earlier today, I figured it was just the rantings of some hyperdox convert who was butthurt because Monastery Icons wasn't the "right" kind of Orthodox (New Calendar, Old-Man-Trinity Icons, Oriental Orthodox, pick whatever nonsense people schism over these days), and I thought the complaints couldn't possibly be all they're cracked up to be. the World, Love and Respect for the
Glory to God for all things! Well, you really pray “into” an ikon as you paint the ikon. search engine rankings. This has apparently been known for quite some time, and it's probably old news to the Orthodox folks here, but it has recently come to my intention that this company is part of a pseudo-Orthodox/pseudo-Pagan cult. http://www.uncutmountainsupply.com/prodimages/lg/11S08.jpg purchasing icons, the good, the bad and the ugly Discussion in 'The Ancient Way ... Hugo Boss suits or a whole bunch of other things, they will have the same return address as Monastery Icons. revealed the group’s secrets. GemmaRose wrote: "Fr. Of all the Byzantine icons that survive in the world, over half of them are at Saint Catherine’s Monastery. So I guess this one doesn’t count as an ikon 'cause the tree doesn’t look like a palm either…, Guess this one doesn’t count either because of the “dwarves”…, [LEFT]Oh, BTW, they aren’t “dwarves”, this is the way children are depitcted in traditional iconographery:tsktsk: [/LEFT]. by the self-styled “Old Catholic” bishop at St. Hilarion’s Center in Austin, Texas
Orthodox sellers of religious items have discovered who and what they are and no
in the state, once carried a color picture on the front page of one of it’s secondary
Many are excessively busy. Christian faith and the presence of spiritual guidance as defined by the teachings
to have anything to do with them, Abbot George announced during one of his sermons
In about 1981 “Bishop George” decided that they had outgrown Old Catholicism, and
Here they practiced
During all of
A few have gnostic implications.Gnosticism is anathematized since the early councils for being heresy. Ever wonder how icons are painted? Little did I dream that I would come into intimate contact with them only a year
You do not choose an ikon, an ikon CHOOSES YOU! All prices are in USD. Succession”—claims which those Coptic Christians accepted without investigation. Apparently that offer was not good enough because, after first relocating in Nebraska,
The miners were painted into the ikon as was their church so this is a case of things being added to an ikon by the ikonographer. exclusive remnant of a spurious so-called “Western Orthodox Church” descended from,
in India. Another person sent me the following information about the alleged connection with
Theodore Jurewicz, and is in Christ the Savior Orthodox Church, in Harrisburg, PA. What do you think of ikons where Jesus is riding on a horse instead of a donkey, guess that doesn’t count as an ikon either then… I still have these materials, and they would be laughable
[FONT=Arial]GemmaRose wrote: “The* second thing we learned is that one does not “paint” an icon. Anthony) was the Roman who led him to his martyrdom. Services, Theological and
(although he—the former “Swami”—stated categorically that it was unnecessary, because
and associated blasphemous and really frightening materials. This is very true. this, they maintained a second, secret chapel on the premises.
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